I disassembled my Mauser M03 Deluxe a couple of days ago and took some photos with my iPhone along the way. They weren't very good so I did it again yesterday, with a proper camera on a tripod and with bounced flash. I was impressed with what I found inside my Mauser. The pictures help demonstrate how the quality feel and operation of the M03's trigger, and its inherent safety, is the result of good design.
First I had to find the two small cuts in the rubber butt plate, which would allow a No 2 Phillips head screwdriver to loosen the upper and lower screws. I lubricated the screwdriver tip with a tiny amount of petroleum jelly, to help it slip within the rubber. The screwdriver was new, with nice sharp teeth, which helped me avoid damaging the screw-heads. I worked each screw a few turns at a time, moving the butt plate away from the stock progressively. This kept the screw-heads retained within the rubber. The heads of the screws are nicely rounded so an alternative approach is to work on one at a time, backing the first one out through the slit in the rubber butt stock, then holding the butt stock in place while working the second one out. The rubber didn't tear when I tried it this way; the lubricant probably helped.
A No 2 Phillips screwdriver will loosen the two butt plate screws |
Once the butt plate was removed I progressively loosened off the screw at the front of the receiver, with a Torx 25 screwdriver, and the Allen head cap-screw holding the rear of the receiver, with a 6mm hex driver. I needed quite a long extension to reach the head of the cap-screw through the hole in the butt. From the T-handle to the tip of the hex driver measures 250mm, which was just long enough.
A Torx 25 driver is needed for the Mauser M03's front receiver screw. |
250mm of reach is needed, with a 6mm hex driver, to loosen the M03's rear receiver screw. |
A Mauser M03's Allen head cap screw, which secures the rear of the receiver to the stock. |
I lifted the receiver assembly out of the stock without much difficulty, but felt some resistance when the magazine catch pressed against the wood and the rubber strips on the sides of the stock's receiver recess. I was careful to avoid bumping and damaging the sharp, top edges of the Deluxe's beautiful walnut with the magazine catch, which protrudes slightly from the left side of the receiver. There was no need to press in the magazine release button; doing so didn't improve clearance. I found I needed to raise the front end of the receiver slightly to ease the trigger lever out from the trigger guard.
With the receiver out in the open I was able to admire its excellent engineering. I should add that it wasn't mere curiosity that caused me to pull my most beautiful Mauser to bits. I had a good reason actually. When I purchased my two 140th anniversary edition M03s from Mialls, with 270 Win and 30-06 barrels, I selected them from stock and arranged for their gunsmith to adjust the triggers to suit my preference before delivery. I asked for 950 grams for the normal trigger and 250 grams for the set trigger. At the same time I ordered a Mauser M03 Deluxe with 6.5x55 and 243 Win barrels, both without iron sights. These needed to be made for me by Mauser in Germany. They duly arrived about five months later, whereupon a muck-up at my end with the Permit to Purchase paperwork meant that there wasn't time for Miall's gunsmith to adjust the Deluxe's trigger before quickly shipping to me, to beat the permit's expiry. Net result - my M03 Deluxe had a noticeably heavier normal trigger than my other M03s. It was around 3 & 1/2 lbs, or 1600gm. Fortunately, all three had the same set trigger weight - 250gm. This was handy, because I pretty well always used the Deluxe, with only the 6.5x55 or 243 Win barrels, over sandbags and with the big, heavy Kahles K624i scope, for sniping at small and distant targets. Nevertheless, I wanted the normal trigger weight of the Deluxe to be the same as the other two M03s. This would avoid the kind of problem I had the one time I went to use the Deluxe's normal weight trigger. I had the 243 barrel installed while I was spotlighting and found a fox, snuffling around a fallen tree trunk. It was only 100m away, thereabouts. I wanted to get the shot off quickly, but accurately. When I put weight on the normal trigger with my calibrated finger, nothing happened. I thought, 'Oh, I haven't cocked it.' But I had. I tried again, pressing a little harder. Still no shot. Then I remembered, 'Ah, this is the one that hasn't been adjusted'. I must have said that out aloud because the fox looked straight at me. I took a moment to push the trigger forward, to set it. My sooky-la-la finger worked well with the set trigger and yes, the fox fell over.
When I looked closely at the trigger mechanism I noticed that the trigger pressure spring was riding over a pin (the trigger spring pin), which had a head at one end and stepped down at the other end, to fit through a hole in the trigger catch. There was also a small bushing fitted on the pin, sandwiched between the head of the pin and the end of the pressure spring. This bushing is not seen in the first picture below, but it's there in the second picture, though not mounted on the pin. There were no screws for making adjustments to the trigger setup.
I compared what I was seeing in the Deluxe receiver with one of my other M03s (which is why a fella should always have at least two). I used a mirror and a torch to look at just the right angle down through the receiver and into the trigger mechanism. I could see the part of the trigger pressure spring that meets the head of its supporting pin, but no bushing. I also looked at the only useful photo of the underside of an M03 receiver that I'd found online, as well as at a parts diagram. In both of these, the length of the head of the pin appeared to be longer than that of the pin in my Deluxe. The head of those pins looked to be about the same as the combined length of the head of my Deluxe's pin and the bushing. Readers have probably figured out what I concluded, i.e. inclusion or removal of the bushing would place more or less tension on the trigger pressure spring and thereby create a heavier or lighter weight for the normal trigger.
Mauser M03 - the trigger pressure spring rides over the trigger spring pin. |
Mauser M03 - fitting this bushing onto the trigger spring pin will increase the weight of the trigger. |
Mauser M03 receiver, bolt, barrel and butt plate. |
Mauser M03 - the trigger spring pin with longer head for the US market is visible. |
Mauser M03 - cropped to show the longer head of the trigger spring pin |
My Mauser M03 Deluxe now has a normal trigger weight that is the same as the other two, and that's a good thing.
The overriding point here is that the Mauser M03 trigger design is simply excellent. For some countries the weight of the normal trigger is adjustable between either crisp and firm, or crisp and a little less firm. It appears that for the US market, it's just crisp and firm. The normal trigger mechanism has no adjustment screws that can work loose. All M03 triggers, whether adjustable or not, will provide crisp, predictable and reliable performance every time. By design.
The Combi Trigger's set trigger mechanism is easy to use, easy to adjust externally (I haven't bothered - 250gm is light enough) and easy to unset, however great care needs to be taken when using it.
It would be very interesting to get input from M03 users in various countries on their trigger weights, via comments here or a post to the Mauser M03 Blog Discussion Forum (see link at top). If a trigger scale isn't handy, balance the rifle on its butt on a kitchen scale. The increase in weight from your finger to release the trigger is the trigger weight. :-) Please check that the rifle is unloaded! Any holes made in your ceiling are your fault.
Notes on Reassembly
I was careful when lowering the receiver into the stock to avoid damaging the sharp edges of the walnut or the rubber strips inside the stock's receiver recess.
I fitted both the Allan cap screw to hold the rear of the receiver and the front screw with its clamping piece loosely before progressively tightening them. Comfortably hand tight on the cap screw using the T-piece and hex driver was 5 to 6 Nm when I checked with my small torque wrench. I did the front screw up with a Torx screwdriver until it was snugly tight and wouldn't come undone, but no more. I'll report back if this reassembled receiver doesn't produce good groups with its 6.5x55 and 243 Win barrels.
Update: having now fired this rifle again, with the 243 Win barrel installed, the reassembly settings described above worked well from the first shot. Link to video of the confirmation shot.
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This post is about the design of the M03's trigger, but I have to mention the cocking/safety mechanism while I'm writing. The key point of difference between a Mauser M03 with its cocking lever and most other rifles with a 'traditional' safety is this:
- a traditional rifle's safety operates by blocking the unintended release of the firing pin in some way, where the firing pin spring has already been placed under tension, as a result of closing the action. That is, the rifle is ready to fire, and will, if the trigger is bumped and the safety has not been put on, or has inadvertently been bumped off, or can't hold back the strong firing pin spring due to some kind of failure. Many rifles of this kind have a safety lever that moves a short distance along the longitudinal axis of the rifle, i.e. in the direction rifles tend to jostle up and down as we walk while hunting. Contact with clothing, a belt, a backpack or the branch of a bush could flick the safety up, from Safe to Fire.
- with the Mauser M03, when its cocking lever is sitting at the 'S' for safe position, the trigger sear is not engaged with the trigger catch and the firing spring inside the striking piece is not tensioned for firing. The firing mechanism is relaxed; the rifle is not cocked. The safety mechanism is not being asked to sit there, ready to hold back the strong force of the firing pin spring (e.g. Win Model 70), or actually holding it back until that force is handed over to the trigger sear to hold back (e.g. Rem 700). With the M03, the safety (i.e. the cocking lever) can't be flicked or bumped to the fire position inadvertently. It can only be swung from the safe position to the fire position by a deliberate act of pushing the strongly sprung lever through an arc of 90 degrees, transverse to the long axis of the rifle. I can't see how the cocking lever could be moved from Safe to Fire accidentally. With the Mauser M03, instead of pushing a safety up and over a hill to block the rifle from firing, the cocking lever has to be pushed up and over a hill to enable it to fire. It is a very safe design.
HI, I recently acquired a new M03 and the trigger seems to have a tiny takeup, is this normal? thanks
ReplyDeleteHi FM. Thanks for posting your question here. Sorry for the short delay before I approved it for publication. Re your enquiry, my best answer would be that there shouldn't be any slack or take-up in the trigger, particularly not once the rifle's bolt has been cocked and is ready to fire. Be careful when you check this! :-) Let me ask, does your rifle have the set-trigger function? Sometimes when I'm using the lighter weight set-trigger I get the sense that there might be a tiny amount of movement, but only if I'm very slowly applying progressive pressure, which I generally don't do. Usually when using the set trigger, I fire it with a brisk finger movement. Not a yank, just deliberately brisk. I do the same with the normal trigger.
DeleteAnyway, spend a few moments feeling your trigger (rifle unloaded and pointed somewhere safe!) and see how your findings compare with what I'm saying about mine.
Of course, the expression 'a tiny takeup' is a subjective measurement. Over the years I've noticed that some people don't notice what I notice. You and I might have extra sensory perception when it comes to triggers. The quality of the trigger is one of the main reasons I chose a Mauser M03 over the alternatives, which leads me to say that you can expect to be pleased with yours. If not, it's worth looking into. The trigger is beautifully designed, yet simple and easy to maintain. If there is something not quite right with it, it will be easy to fix.
Regards, Rick.
Hi Rick
DeleteThanks for you answer. This is a new gun, never shot yet, just bought this week.
I’m Portuguese so maybe I’m not using de right words for describing my feeling, maybe is not a takeup and more a very small creep
The gun has a set trigger that works fine. But, when testing “normal” trigger, pulling very slow I feel a very small amount of travel and then it goes bang. I was not expecting this.
Regards
Francisco
PS: please apologize for my bad English
Hi Francisco. Firstly, congratulations on your new M03. How exciting, to have a new one. :-)
DeleteI'm writing while eating lunch, but when I'm finished I will go and unlock my rifles and see if I can feel any slight creep with the normal trigger. I think the answer is going to be 'yes, there is a slight creep, but only if pressure is applied very gently and with a very slow build up. I think all triggers with a safe hunting weight will do this, if very gentle and progressive finger pressure is used. But when we're hunting, that's not what we do. What happens with me is, I watch how the cross hair is wobbling around over the animal and I pull the trigger briskly and quickly (but not roughly) when the wobble is in the right place. Usually, I don't even notice that I've pulled the trigger. The rifle just goes 'Bang!' at the right time.
In the past, when I was doing ammunition testing at the rifle range, I used to try to keep the cross-hair steady on the aimpoint and then slowly increase pressure on the trigger. It would usually be a set trigger for this testing. I would be increasing finger pressure so slowly that I couldn't tell when the rifle would fire. Sometime I could tell that the highly magnified cross-hair was not perfectly centred when the shot fired. These days, I do it differently. Now, I watch how the cross-hair slowly moves around over the aimpoint and then trip the trigger briskly when it's right on the centre. This makes for better, smaller groups. This also means that I never notice any creep, if there was any to be noticed. It's also more fun; the rifle doesn't frighten me as much!
I guess what I'm suggesting is, if you are noticing the smallest amount of creep with the normal trigger weight, the chances are you will not find this to be any kind of problem when you are shooting for real at wild boars in Portugal or Spain or Cape Buffalo in Mozambique. :-)
Please stand by for a moment while I go and do some tests with my M03s triggers. I'll try not to make new holes in the walls.
Hi Rick,
ReplyDeleteDo you know the purpose of the little screw on the trigger?
thanks
The little screw on the trigger is for making new holes in the wall, by surprise. :-D
DeleteThis screw will adjust the weight of the set-trigger. It does not affect the weight of the normal trigger. Do some tests to be sure.
Have you used some kind of trigger scale to measure your triggers? An easy way is to stand the butt of your rifle on a digital kitchen scale, so that the rifle is vertical and is held steady in some way, with all of its weight floating on the scale. Fire the trigger while watching to see how much weight your finger adds to the scale. Make sure you are filming this for YouTube. Voila! New hole in the ceiling! Lots of views on the MauserM03Blog channel.
Please report back with your trigger weight results and the names of your new friends in the upstairs apartment.
Hi Rick,
ReplyDeleteI have tried to play with the screw and it not moving:) i believe the only thing i managed was destroing the head of the screw i'm using the right key but the scree material is soft.
The creep kn the normal trigger is like you said. It happens only if the force is applied slowly, if do it in a more... lets say more assertive way it doesnt happen. But now i hnow the creep is theres and sometimes i am already antecipating the creep, looking for him... :(
With your scale test it looks that the normal trigger is around 900-1000 grams. Very hard to be exact, but...
Thnaks for your help
Best regards
Francisco
Hi Francisco.
ReplyDeleteYour trigger weight of around 900 grams is right for the normal trigger for a European supplied rifle. So that’s good.
Ouch, that’s not good news about the screw in the trigger. Might be best to leave it alone. Eek! It will be possible to get a replacement, if you feel it’s necessary, to make it look nice and new again. My set triggers are sitting at around 250gm, which I think is just fine. I don’t need them to be lighter.
I still need to let you know about my triggers … :-) I was distracted today, with old relatives and keeping them safe from coronavirus. Eek again. Wait a little more for me please.
It’s springtime in Portugal, so probably not wild boar season. Are there any pest animals you can test your rifle with? Here in Australia we have lots of pests (pigs, foxes, rabbits, deer, buffalo, ... camels!), which is sometimes handy. You might have wolves, but I'm sure they are protected these days.
Hi,
ReplyDeleteI have manage to buy a trigger scale like this https://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/wheeler-trigger-pull-scale
I have got around 1000 grams for the normal trigger. I is fine.
The set trigger i can't measure with accuracy, the scale starts at 230 grams, and thats what i get. I wil leave it, i have to anyway, the screw doesnt move.
Ok, now that you know the weight of the trigger, for both normal and set-trigger modes, you have no excuses for missing on your first hunting expedition! Us Mauser fans want a full report on how you get on, with some excellent photos, thank you very much.
DeleteIf you send me a message via the Mauser M03 Discussion Forum, we'll make a nice blog post from your report. Even if you're just punching holes in paper to start with. We'll say the paper was as sneaky as a fox and as tough as a Cape Buffalo. :-)
Hello again Francisco. I've just tested my most used M03, which is the 270 Win I normally use for hunting.
ReplyDeleteWith the normal trigger weight, I cannot feel or see any creep, which is how I remembered it. However, with the set trigger, I can definitely feel and see creep if I very slowly increase the pressure. But out in the field, I am more decisive and break the trigger with a distinct, brisk pull.
So what does this mean for you and your rifle? As you can see from the photos in this blog post, there are no adjustment screws in the Mauser M03 trigger for the sear engagement or over-travel. This makes it safe, by the way! My suggestion is to use the rifle for a while, at the range and in hunting situations, to see how you shoot with it. If you feel that the trigger is not performing as well as it should, then ask your shop or gunsmith for their opinion and to look carefully at it. The trigger has to be good with an M03, as this is one of the best features of the rifle system. I'm quite sure that you will get good help from Mauser if you conclude that there is a problem. They also think that their triggers are meant to be good.
Let me know if you think I can help, if you don't get satisfaction from your shop or gunsmith.
Regards, Rick.
Update:
ReplyDeleteCreep has gone. After some trigger usage with a fake cartridge it disappeared.
Trigger weight is around 1078 gr, measured with a Timney trigger pull gauge.
Hi Francisco. Sorry for the delay in publishing your latest comment. The notification got trapped in my email server. This is good news about your trigger feel falling into place nicely. Perhaps there was some grit or gunk caught up on the sear, or something like that. Your trigger weight looks to be correct for a Euro rifle. Lucky you, to have a Timney trigger pull gauge. I dream of having one of those ... :-) All the best with your Mauser! Please get in touch when you have a hunting story to share, or even some good test shooting results to talk about. Take pics! We could make a blog post with your story. After all, hunting is something we can do while social-distancing and getting exercise, and walking a dog. Three for one. Regards, Rick.
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